RE: Henry Haina

LOL

Guys turns out we're dealing with a female.

Nothing against women, But how many of of acutual win fights with your wife.

Zelda just curious, you not part podagee are you? lol

For all us guys, pau with this subject already.

dis stuff not going get solved on the computer, lets get back to our HUNTING FORUM.

Lets talk about something else already. Dogs for example any body get new litters or

new bloodlines for sale?

As for you zelda, I was born and raised Hawaiian. Ain't nothing you can do about that.

Us Hunters goining Hunt. So to Bad.

I AGREE SHE GAVE IT AWAY ONCE SHE SAID BEING ALONE WITH KIDS . THATS WHY SHE BACK THE GUY UP SO MUCH AND TALK BAD ABOUT US HUNTERS MEAN.

Sorry for ticking you off with my first post. Don't follow those guys advice. Follow HYPA's.

Didn't know you were in Puna, was expecting you to be on Oahu for some reason. Puna is nutz- strait up outlaw territory and most landowner who I met in my limited time around there grew pot, others had it grown in and around their property by whomevers, and a relatively high amount of people are obviously tweeking on worse things (the vast majority are law abiding citizens, of course). Puna has a reputation for squatters and weirdos and it's understandable how people react to the situation.

But yeah, don't follow those other guy as advice. If somebody were to shoot another person in Hawaii, they ARE getting charged with attempted murder or worse. If somebody fired a gun at you and was runnign away and you fired at and killed that person, you would not get away with it in self defence even if he still had a gun in his hand because he was no longer an emediate threat. The laws are very strict here on leathal defence. It has to really be legit. And there are no rights to defend property. The shooting dogs part... well, that has its pros and cons. I wouldn't shoot a dog unless it was in the act of attacking my livestock, though I probably couldn't shoot a dog, period.

You could always look into getting one of those trail/game cameras, the kind hunters use to scout. Set it up on a trail or boundary or path and use it to monitor who is tresspassing and catch them on film in the act. Best to get one without a flash, perhaps even infrared if they are tresspassing at night and hide it good because people will try to steal it if they spot it. I'm sure that would help a lot if you have trespassers. Would also be an excellent way of monitoring your property for whatever...

I think this is a good topic. ...just wish it hadn't gotten split into two.

First we're tresspassin poachers, Now we're Drug dealers???




This Is To Much

calvin wrote:First we're tresspassin poachers, Now we're Drug dealers???




This Is To Much

Go move hawaii kai, you probly fit right in

Ho cuz, c'mon now, no need bash Hawaii Kai.

not bashing hawaii kai

I used to stay with family down dea, quiet nieghborhood

calvin wrote:LOL

Guys turns out we're dealing with a female.

Nothing against women, But how many of of acutual win fights with your wife.

Zelda just curious, you not part podagee are you? lol

For all us guys, pau with this subject already.

dis stuff not going get solved on the computer, lets get back to our HUNTING FORUM.

Lets talk about something else already. Dogs for example any body get new litters or

new bloodlines for sale?

As for you zelda, I was born and raised Hawaiian. Ain't nothing you can do about that.

Us Hunters goining Hunt. So to Bad.

Things are going to change that will affect weather you can hunt or not ............

This is not a men/ woman issue this is a issue of having the right to privacy. I would hope that you can pick up what i'm putting down

1. I am also a hawaiian 1/2 the other 1/2 not
2. I live on Oahu, and have farm land, this is where all the trespassing takes place
3. We bought land in the Volcano area, ( people there dont put up with trespassing of any kind
4.We would like this matter to be resolved, one way or another. so here are some options

a. Do we take matters into our own hands, and shoot dogs on sight, that are on our property?

b. Do we act like people in Puna and flatten tires and smash windshields of hunters on their property?
Just like it's hard for us to prove anything, try proving who smashed your stuff

c. Do we pressure our District Representatives to put strict laws on hunting, like only allowing game
wardens to eradicate pigs or only allowing hunting that is organized and monitored on specific days?

d. Do we leave it in the care of Mr. Haina and ask him to tone it down? Hunters are trying to get him fired
so that closes that avenue

What would you do?

Remember that we live in the 21st century, we live in dangerous times, and any Man that say's that He would be OK knowing that His wife and kids are home and all kine guys come through your property with guns, knives and crossbows, He would be......
1. a liar
2. no man

you're right we do live in dangerous times. I deal with potential terrorist everyday.

But to tell you the truth you're on the wrong forum.

Try poachers.com instead. Or maybe even herb4lyfe.com

You might get better results

Zelda... "Things are going to change that will affect weather you can hunt or not .........."
did you seriously just write that? you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you know how much $$$$$$$$$$ the government gets from hunters that ends up coming back in the form of a fund for the state of Hawaii?
My advice to you is stop the bashing and try to get on the good side of some honest hunters who can help you with your problem. that will help both sides of this and it's a way more positive approach.

the gov't also saves millions of dollars by letting the citizens go out and control wild game numbers as opposed to paying proffesional hunters

Zelda, We are tired of hearing your complaining. We feel the same pain. It is horrible to be a good hunter, that stays off of people's property and put in the same category as them. Do you know how many of my own co-workers say that I am unethical because one poacher kills pets, others malnutrition their dogs and so on? This is the only $h!t on the news. What about the pounds upon pounds of smoke meat that other HUNTERS give to homeless? What about the Dogs that look better than show dogs because a HUNTER loves their animals? You can go on and on; you talking to the wrong people. You are defending a man that pointed his weapon at MANY CHILDREN!!! I guess he felt threatened that they would sing nursery rhymes to him.

About your Problem with POACHERS now; many people have already told you alternatives.
Call authorities when you see intruders. (Oahu's response time should be a lot faster than Big Island)
Approach them. (Contrary to most people's beliefs, they are not all wife beating, testosterone overwhelming men)
Let US HUNTERS know how we can help.

Other than that, quit complaining to the wrong people. If you need help, I am pretty sure someone here can help, but you have to let us know how. Continuing to bicker will not bring any results.

Aloha,
Shane M.

I liked the nursy ryhm part I laughed kinda hard on that one!!!!!


Zelda i have pm you back so let me know if you need help, and i wont ask a thing from ya in return

Zelda,
thats right HYPA is one that respects land and has been very helpful toward the ladowners that have had problems with hunters in the past and still does all he can when we call.
Thanks Cowboy Chris!

For those of you that have had Henry help you with your land and private intrest,good luck to you.But it seems as you are only looking at your benefits of Henry helping you on the situation with poacher's.It those not justify him pointing guns at people that are law abiding and are not suspects of a crime.An example would be that if a person gives miillions of dollars to charity,that those not still give him the right to beat his wife.It is againts the law,like it is the law that you not point a gun in someones face unless they show you some kind of treat to your life.It seems that our Islands are turning more liberal and more liberal by the way people are trying to justify things that are wrong to be right.I agree with the POACHERS being wrong and they should be held responsible for what they do, as Henry should be responsible for his own actions also.The moral to what I'm saying is that a right those not erase a wrong no matter what it is.


Aloha,Robert C.

"SOME GO HUNTING,SOME ARE HUNTER'S"

As many areas become subdivided, developed, and interspersed with houses and agriculture, hunting (particularly with guns and/or dogs) will no longer be the most desireable means of animal control. Then you gonna see more people like Zelda getting frustrated and coming out with these steriotypical views based on a few bad apples. Though I don't see why she thinks hunters are so dangerous- how often do you see any kind of hunting accident? Anyway, trapping is on the rise. And I don't mean snares. Pen traps with bait will be the way to go in these areas. Times are changing but the pigs are still there, often more than ever before.

The best thing they could probably do is start some sort of wild boar meat industry. I'm sure there would be a huge market, what with all the demand for organic free range meats. Not sure how legal that is right now. Maybe if you tied the pig up and brought it to a certified slaughterhouse... ?? Anyway, here I go again preaching animal control. Hope I'm not putting anybody off.

I'm trying to get into trapping right now. All the areas I grew up hunting above Kilauea got subdivided into gentleman's estates and most of the landowners don't like the idea of hunting. So I don't go there much anymore except a couple properties with the bow when I get the right connections. Guarenteed, I'ld have much better luck asking permission to set up traps than any other method. Many of them rich bucks would probably even pay the initial setup costs ($500+) and feed.