THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE TO VOTE!!!

Thank you for posting , cannot tell you how much I appreciate you and others who are ALL IN . Folks if you ever wonder why we doing a STATEWIDE HUNTING / GATHERS LAW SUIT , read this post .
Joe

The little I had heard about this has me worried also. I was already planning to attend the Maui meeting. Thanks for posting this up for everyone to see.

I going check out the Kona meeting, Thanks for posting this up!

I wasn't at the hilo meeting because I am working in Honolulu during the week , but I heard had over 100 plus people there last night and everybody was asking them why n what they doing n they wouldn't answer much . But I didn't get all the question's asked and really what happened . Folks they coming hard to take everything and take more . On this issue earth justice and Sierra Club on our side (which for this issue I am glad they are because we need help) people out there thinks this land grabs and this desecration of Hawaiian culture , tradition n religious beliefs are not in jeopardy read and attend these schedule meeting on this PLDC , and think again . Hawaii in trouble . A lot of you guys don't think the PELE DEFENSE FUND STATEWIDE HUNTING LAW SUIT is a good thing or will work you better think again . I cannot guarantee we will win but because PELE DEFENSE FUND is on them sh**t is being checked ,question n not going to be left to chance for administrative wishing , no PELE DEFENSE FUND is going to do our best for Hawaii n our future .

U people on the fence when it comes to the STATEWIDE HUNTING LAW SUIT I keep hearing oh it only pertains to Hawaiian 's n no other race . The only way to win this law suit n bring it into court is through the violations to article 12 sec 7 of the state of Hawaii constitution n federal laws protecting Hawaiian cultural,traditional and religious beliefs granted to Hawaiian 's . So ask yourself this questions who the f** ck cares how it's won because once we puka the fence n change laws n re assess land's n fence it correctly n put game back in there n have game management in place to protect our lifestyle ,culture n religious beliefs we all win . So whoever u are bitching n moaning get off your ass n help n be part of the solution n not a stumbling block or put doubt if can or no can n only Hawaiian 's going to benefit ,BS we all benefit . So quit the cry baby bs
Joe

Aloha...my friend and i attended the meeting last night and where tripping out at the things that the PLDC are capable of doing! The PLDC pretty much wrote their own rules and excluded themselves and their sellected parties of following State and/or County laws. I mean even to the point that under certain sections of Act 55 excludes them and their parties from paying state taxes and pushing the cost of development to the people of Hawaii. From what I read on the internet this bill took only 3 days to become law and a gentleman that testified last night stated the samething! 3 days from the time it went to the house to the Governor signing the bill! When did you ever hear ANY federal, state or county office working that fast! So you know they up to something and they moving fast! Honokohau Harbor sold to PLDC which was stated to the people attending last nights meeting. This is not even one percent of the items discussed so please make the time and attend the meeting when its on the island you live (make sure you sign in at the meeting). Also like Joe stated Pele Defense Fund is for ALL of Hawaii not just the Big Island so please support the fight and give what you can. Pele Defense fighting for everyone not just Hawaiians so again please help. I'm pretty sure everyone like keep the culture we live alive and not have to show our great grand kids pictures of how we use to live. Above Bradda Sheld'z get the date, time and location so in a way no more excuses. Mahalo to everyone who fighting the fight to help me and my family keep our way of life.

Chad

Good turn out @ the Kona meeting, Listened to bout 2 hours and 45 minutes of oppositon! Contact your current representative and the representative you voting or voted for this election and ask them where they stand! This must be repealed!

First and foremost THE STATE DOES NOT HAVE LEGAL TITLE TO THESE LANDS!
The PLDC exempts itself from their own rules which they haven't adopted yet?
The PLDC wishes to operate without NOONES input! No county, No public say! Actually go as far as to say it is not required for them to even do these meetings!
The land is public land and is held in trust for the future generations of Hawaii!
PLDC can decide they want your land give you a price to be paid within 30 days and if you can't pay it then remove you, Haven't figured or revealed how they plan to come up with these values. Sq footage? Frontal? "Assesments shall be done by a qualified appraiser" Who's appraiser? Theirs?
If they plan to do work near your property, You must pay for any work which has to be done on your property! Pipes, Wires, Dredging.
If they must move power poles you as the property owner must pay to bring power back to your home!
If they're exempt from all building, planning codes what's to protect the native hawaiians rights to upstream water for their farming?
The DLNR mission statement is "Enhance, protect, conserve and manage Hawaii’s unique and limited natural, cultural and historic resources held in public trust for current and future generations of visitors and the people of Hawaii nei in partnership with others from the public and private sectors."
The PLDC shall not be required to pay state taxes of any kind.
The PLDC may recommend to the DLNR board the “purchase of any privately owned properties that may be appropriate for development”
The PLDC can accept "Gifts"! Bribes?
The roads alone they make for these projects, wells and developments as we have seen all over the Hawaiian islands are a huge threat to our remaining native forest.
Voting against the legislation creating the PLDC were Representatives Awana, Belatti, Brower, Hanohano, Jordan, C. Lee, Luke, Saiki and Wooley plus Senator Ihara. Who'd you vote for?
These meetings are about their draft rules guys, Not about the existance of the PLDC! It is important everyone know this! The PLDC will say your testimony was irrelevant to the meeting and your input will be disregarded! When giving testimony last night many people stated "I oppose Chapters 301 302 and 303" and the representative from the PLDC wrote it down each time, Other then that they pick and choose what notes to take
The meeting in Kona was recorded by 1 audience member and supposedly the PLDC is audio recording the statements made!

Some of these points are my take on it, some are copied and pasted from other sites and others are points made last night!


Can't make it to these hearings? Please send your comments via written testimony to PLDC, P.O. Box 2359, Honolulu, HI 96804, prior to Sept 14 or by email to randal.y.ikeda@hawaii.gov and joy.y.kimura@hawaii.gov

http://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2012/08/22/video-hawaiis-new-public-land-development-corp-rejected/

OccupyHawaii filmed the meeting in Hilo! 9 parts, Here's Part 1! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9cskDiA64A&list=UUFxjZxfD_BFDaOeAHzC_D1Q&index=7&feature=plcp

Mahalo for sharing the links to those videos, Jusacruzah.

I read the pdf that was sent to me earlier and after reading your earlier post
thought that you may have the sort of talking points thats needed.

I'm in opposition to PLDC. I'm not trying to sandpaper them into becoming
a smoother quasi-entity.

But thanks for posting this comment here:

These meetings are about their draft rules guys, Not about the existance of the PLDC! It is important everyone know this! The PLDC will say your testimony was irrelevant to the meeting and your input will be disregarded! When giving testimony last night many people stated "I oppose Chapters 301 302 and 303" and the representative from the PLDC wrote it down each time, Other then that they pick and choose what notes to take

I'm hoping to at least attend the hearing in Honolulu next Wednesday. I haven't figured out what to say. Other than what I think a lot of us already would like to say.... "#@CK you guys!!!" ..... but as you wrote they will say your testimony was irrelevant to the meeting....

This whole PLDC thing is actually doing what the failed AKAKA BILL was not able to do, which is to wrap its greedy little fingers around every bit of land that it can.

b.

Most definately say how you guys feel, Just say it in a constructive manner to avoid giving them an excuse to "close the meeting"! They've taken the land from the people and with this Corporation seek to seperate the people from the land. They seem to forget the iwi of our ancestors are the lands which we walk today, We will not be seperated EVER! Their definiton of "Person" is "As appropriate individuals, Partnerships,corporations,Associations or public or private organizations of any character other than agencies"! Having $ to handle your business makes you a person? Obama says not!

This corporation stinks of under the table dealings, backdoor trading and "Believe me it's good for us, While I line my pockets destroying your resources" kind of tactics! For them to even think of trying to pull this they gotta be desperate & hāʻole (I not talking bout their skin)!

I just got in from the Maui meeting a few minutes ago. Over 80 people attended and listened to 3 hours of testimony. 100% of us who testifed were against not only the Chapters 301, 302, and 303, but also the very existance of PLDC. Thank you VBK for the talking points you emailed me. I used the 10 recommendations as the basis for my testimony. We also had a petition going around calling for the repeal of HRS 171c, which created the PLDC. Those of you who have yet to have your meetings, please be sure to start your own petitions also. One disappointed part of the meeting was that they would not answer any questions. They did state that they will answer written questions submitted to them, but they did not say when. If you want to submit your own questions or written testimony regarding the PLDC and the draft administrative rules, you can email them to Joy.Y.Kimura@Hawaii.gov

Mahalo for sharing the Maui update. I'm against the existence of the PLDC. It's way too slick for me. Whatever happened to this government, I don't know. The way this PLDC is set up is bad. A way to fast track projects along. Talking about their draft rules is like saying, "Okay, go ahead, rape this place, screw it over any which way you want to, but rule number one folks, "use a condom". I don't want to sound profane, but that's what it is. I say "Don't rape my mother earth, this 'aina, the ceded (misnomer, the lands were never ceded) lands held in trust for the Hawaiian people." I don't want to be seen as trying to incite anything, but if they aren't answering questions, then its not really a conversation, is it? Oh, its a hearing. I forgot. My gut feeling is that its just a way for them to say that they ran it past the public, and then they'll proceed as if no opposition ever occurred. I think folks should makes signs the way they protested Monsanto and stand outside of the room where the hearing is going on, beat on some drums, do a little shouting, get the mainstream media to come and film the chaos and have the larger population get a clue about how bad this thing really is. This is something, I'd like to see dismantled. Not reformed. Just abolished. Government these days has a bad habit of taking the little people for granted. It's lawyers turned politicians. Opportunists who collude with private interests to screw Hawai'i and its people over. I don't like politics that's all about profiteering, about prostituting this place to every Tom, Prick and Mary, who happens to have some money to put into some money making venture. Use the land to grow food. Not build more hideous buildings, roads etc. And don't make us foot the bill and lay face down-ass up while they pump millions into their bank accounts because they happen to be tax exempt. I don't think I'll do well at one of these hearings, because I won't be able to stay focused on just their rules. Doing so, validates them. Thanks, Misadventure Gear, for requesting the talking points. I'm glad that you found it helpful and useful. Having said all of this, I'd like to ask everyone to consider supporting the Pele Defense Fund's efforts. Now, more than any other, our help is needed.

Mahalo + Aloha,

b.