RE: Henry Haina

MauiRhino wrote:I've been following this thread since it started and I've kept my mouth shut and just listened to everyone. But now I gotta say I agree with Hog Wild....It's a shame to see Zelda stir us up and get us attacking each other! Several of us have offered to help her, and she obviously wasn't really interested in getting help. We've all agreed (Zelda included) that poachers suck. If she won't take our help, then nothing more we can do. Except maybe to take a look at your own hunting practices, and if they aren't fully legal and ethical then don't do it. If you hold yourself to the highest standards then people like Zelda no can say anything.

Main thing is, don't let Zelda turn us against each other.......which is what her real goal is....

calvin wrote:zelda,

I am in law inforcement, I am an armed sentury for Pearl Harbor and work with DOD(federal police).
I am trained and certified for use of firearm and deadly force.
I know when to use or not or even draw a weapon.
I am also one of the law abiding hunters that was wrongfully harrassed by Henry Haina.

Having introduced myself, lets get back to your last subject.
If you want to believe those land owners then see what happens when you shoot somebody, tresspasser or not.

Enough with this intimidation story telling, If you have tresspassers then by all means call the police.
Don't start bashing away at us LAW ABIDING HUNTERS.

ollie wrote:Zelda I usually don't waste my time with small minded people like you and better yet hide behind a make-up name. Yes the children was tresspassing but that don't give him the right to draw his gun. Let say that the gun went off by accident and someone was hurt or kill. I don't think you would be talking how great this warden is. See I was threaten by him even though he knew I had permission after making a phone call to the office. He even tried to take the pants off another violator saying he needed it for evidence after he took everthing else all the while using vulgar language. We live in the Hawaii and the last time I checked, we are part of the U.S.A. and are govern by laws and not Haina's justice. Maybe you have problems because of the way you treat people and that won't change untill you change. The issue have never been about people violating the law but the way the law is administered. If they break the law they deserve to be cited. [PERIOD] What if you were J-WALKING and a police officer, pull his gun and stopped you, slammed you on the ground, all the while calling you names and swearing at you and then wrote you a ticket for J-WALKING. Better yet what if an officer targeted you so he would wait for you on the road near you home. When you drove out of your drive way about a mile down the road he chased you, you stop and with his gun drawn he approach your car all the while using vulgar words, open your car door, drag you out, slam you on the ground and after all that he issues a speeding ticket going 10 mile over the speed limit. The way you think, he is right in doing that to you. One thing I can tell you if that happen you would not venture out off your house for fear he might be waiting for you once you leave home. Most of the complaints I filed with DLNR are from people who got harrass by Haina for minor infractions. As a young boy growing up in Hawaii I've always enjoyed the outdoors but now with a person like him I don't feel safe doing what I grew up to enjoy. So Zelda take the law into your own hands so you can join Haina once the dust clear and the truth comes out and both of can be put away for good. AMEN

Papiopolice wrote:Armed sentry?...LOL... FYI YOU ARE NOT IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. YOU ARE IN SECURITY. Its like saying a school bus driver is a race car driver. And your mentors the DOD Police, keystone cops. What do the DOD cop wannabees know about real LE tactics? What is your biggest LE decision each day on duty? When to sit or stand at your post? C'mon, from what it sounds like you dont know squat about proper police tactics. Reasonable force necessary to compell compliance. Drawing your weapon is not deadly force it is a threat of deady force. Every situation is different and is based on what the actor believes in each situation. A Poacher with weapons and unleashed dogs, clearing leather, drawing to the low ready or even drawing down on a poacher until any potential threat is identified and/or commands are followed in most cases is justified. A DOD armed guards use of force continum is far more restrictive than a real law enforcement officer.